Episode Number 73Steven Kotler on Flow

Steven Kotler is a bestselling author, journalist, and entrepreneur. His articles have appeared in over 70 publications, including The New York Times Magazine, Wired, GQ, Discover, Popular Science, Outside, Details, and National Geographic Adventure. He is best known for his non-fiction books, including the New York Times bestseller Abundance, A Small Furry Prayer, West of Jesus, and his latest, The Rise of Superman.

Show Notes

Steven Kotler is a great fit for The Work Talk Show. Throughout his many articles and books, one consistent through line is evident — the research and neuroscience behind why we do what we do and how we get more of it done. All of this comes together in his new book The Rise of Superman.

The book outlines the Flow state that we reach in moments of total absorption, when time dilates and our self awareness goes down when we are at our full potential. It’s not hard to see that if one can find a way to generate many back-to-back flow cycles you can maximize your productivity throughout the day.

This is exactly what Kotler does with his own routine, which begins at 4 AM. There’s no phone or email until 7 AM so he spend these early hours focusing on his current work (often an article or book). At 7:00 he responds to email quickly, then works for another hour. He then runs or works out and writes before lunch. After lunch he “heads to the mountains” of New Mexico, where Kotler shares his home with 37 shelter dogs!

What are the 3 Apps Steven Can’t Live Without? When it comes to apps, Kotler admits he can explain a hadron collider but he can’t download apps! His favorites are Google Maps and email.

Shout-outs and plugs! Both DJ and Nick recognized the hardworking team at Marketo for pulling off a great Marketing Nation Summit earlier in the month. Steven gave a shout to The Rise of Superman which is perched at Number 8 on the New York Times best seller list and to the good people of Google, where Kotler will be speaking soon.

Until next week, we’ll see you on the Internet!

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